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Israel Could Strike Iran in Spring
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-02-02 21:31:32
Quote: US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta believes there is a "strong possibility" that Israel will strike Iran's nuclear installations this spring, the Washington Post said Thursday in an editorial.
When asked about the opinion piece by reporters travelling with him to a NATO meeting in Brussels, Panetta brushed it aside.
"I'm not going to comment on that. David Ignatius can write what he will but with regards with what I think and what I view, I consider that to be an area that belongs to me and nobody else," he said.
"Israel indicated they're considering this (a strike), we've indicated our concerns," he added.
The Post columnist said Panetta "believes there is a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June before Iran enters what Israelis described as a 'zone of immunity' to commence building a nuclear bomb."
Do you think it's just rhetoric or do you think this is a real possibility for the spring?
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By Sylph.Sagiaurex 2012-02-02 21:35:53
Honestly this kind of thing could happen at any time imo just considering the way things have been going with both sides, but hey it could just be rhetoric
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-02-02 21:36:57
Israel's security would be compromised if Iran got a weapon so I would not be surprised if they took out the nuclear facilities in a pre-emptive strike then planned for Iran's immediate declaration of war.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2012-02-02 21:41:27
Honestly it would not surprise me in either case.
Sadly, we will wind up in the middle of it in either case as well.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-02-02 21:43:41
Asura.Arkanethered said: »Honestly it would not surprise me in either case.
Sadly, we will wind up in the middle of it in either case as well. This is ultimately the concern. Just what we need, another war.
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By Sylph.Sagiaurex 2012-02-02 21:46:43
Yeah, :/ only a matter of time I guess.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2012-02-02 21:49:41
Asura.Arkanethered said: »Honestly it would not surprise me in either case.
Sadly, we will wind up in the middle of it in either case as well.
Pretty much >.>
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By Asura.Domz 2012-02-02 21:50:54
country thats sitting on a sea of oil says it needs nuclear power for energy while simultaneously denying inspectors? ya, *** that ***. besides its not the first time israel has gone in and took out a possible nuclear facility. they keep an eye on their neighbors
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-02-02 21:51:09
That's why I'm certain Clinton and the other diplomats are pretty much telling Israel not to do it because the shitstorm would be immense if war between Iran and Israel broke out during an election year.
America cannot afford another protracted military engagement in the Middle East but we'd have no choice as the Jewish presence in the US would most certainly lobby the govt to assist their ally in the region. There is no way we could avoid being drawn in.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-02 21:53:30
last I had read their level of enrichment was years away from weapons grade, if that's the case then there's nothing to worry about and everyone needs to *** chill.
If this isn't the case and there's plausible threat, then I could see preemptive action being justified, just to what scale is very questionable.
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By Asura.Domz 2012-02-02 21:54:47
i wouldnt be worried about israel, yeah theyve needed our help but theyve managed to hold off every threat to their existance since being created after ww2. tbh if we are involved i wouldnt expect anything more than the usual airstrikes/op raids
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-02-02 21:55:23
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »That's why I'm certain Clinton and the other diplomats are pretty much telling Israel not to do it because the shitstorm would be immense if war between Iran and Israel broke out during an election year. Definitely not during an election year!
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2012-02-02 21:58:59
Sadly this will be the start of WWIII. NATO nations will ally with the US and Israel and sadly China and Russia will more than likely side with Iran.
It is so sad that turmoil has engulfed that area of the Earth and what is even more sad is that the ideology comes from the fact that Jews are in the middle east. This is why I hate religion, it dictates so many prejudices and silly conflicts can be avoided if you didn't have priests, clerics, etc spitting rhetoric.
Surprisingly North Korea has kept its mouth shut as of late, but wouldn't be surprised if they try to put their two cents into this whole fiasco.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-02-02 22:00:24
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »That's why I'm certain Clinton and the other diplomats are pretty much telling Israel not to do it because the shitstorm would be immense if war between Iran and Israel broke out during an election year. Definitely not during an election year!
Pretty much. Beyond the obvious ***of being dragged into a military engagement having it happen during an election year would prove disastrous for Obama. Politicians never stop thinking about the sweet power of being in power afterall.
Even if it turns out to be some mild airstrikes I don't see Iran collapsing as fast as Iraq did with their improved military capabilities. It'd be long and drawn out with the possibility of retaliation.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-02 22:00:34
country thats sitting on a sea of oil says it needs nuclear power for energy while simultaneously denying inspectors? ya, *** that ***. besides its not the first time israel has gone in and took out a possible nuclear facility. they keep an eye on their neighbors
nuclear energy is worlds above petroleum energy (and a lot better of an idea)
the level of enrichment needed for nuclear power is far less than that of weapons grade, it's near comparing the diamonds that (hate using them as an example, just it's a better comparison than a lump of coal) mythbusters made using explosives to gem quality diamonds, it's just not the same.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-02 22:02:53
Wouldn't surprise me, but I kinda doubt it.. Even if it does happen, I don't really see us devoting considerable resources into it.. The desire to get out of war was overwhelming.. The vast majority of Americans wanted it over with, To go back into it right now would be career suicide.. Especially with elections 'just around the corner'..
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By Bismarck.Recaldy 2012-02-02 22:08:04
I'll care until all our troops are out of the area then let them have their fun.
By Lennah 2012-02-02 22:24:10
What's funny is we have nuclear weapons capabilities. How would we feel if another country was planing to attack us to disarm our nuclear weapons? We'd say we're being attack by terrorists. Yet, when we and our allies are doing the same, it's an operation.
There's even little or no evidence that Iran is building nuclear weapons to begin with. We need to mind our own buisness and perhaps there won't be any animosity among other nations.
It's a little different when disarming a country the makes a promise to attack. We have not threatened to use any weapon on Iran (excluding non-violent economic sanctions). Iran has already stated that it will retaliate against the US and Israel for the death of their nuclear scientist, which might I remind you, they had no proof were involved in.
Such a promise makes it our business.
The US, specifically the white house, should be given credit for its thus far peaceful approach to the situation, and it's urging of Israel to withhold it's attack 'possibly' planned for this Spring.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2012-02-02 22:34:03
Rethugs are bringing nothing to the table worth looking at... So they will run this into the ground to try and stir their base.
*** war-mongers.
I'm just nb4ing...
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2012-02-02 22:34:08
What's funny is we have nuclear weapons capabilities. How would we feel if another country was planing to attack us to disarm our nuclear weapons? We'd say we're being attack by terrorists. Yet, when we and our allies are doing the same, it's an operation.
There's even little or no evidence that Iran is building nuclear weapons to begin with. We need to mind our own buisness and perhaps there won't be any animosity among other nations.
It's a little different when disarming a country the makes a promise to attack. We have not threatened to use any weapon on Iran (excluding non-violent economic sanctions). Iran has already stated that it will retaliate against the US and Israel for the death of their nuclear scientist, which might I remind you, they had no proof were involved in.
Yeah, the scientists probably just died from heat exhaustion or sleep deprivation. Something innocuous like that. I'm sure the US or Israel had nothing to do with anything.
By Lennah 2012-02-02 22:41:49
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »What's funny is we have nuclear weapons capabilities. How would we feel if another country was planing to attack us to disarm our nuclear weapons? We'd say we're being attack by terrorists. Yet, when we and our allies are doing the same, it's an operation.
There's even little or no evidence that Iran is building nuclear weapons to begin with. We need to mind our own buisness and perhaps there won't be any animosity among other nations.
It's a little different when disarming a country the makes a promise to attack. We have not threatened to use any weapon on Iran (excluding non-violent economic sanctions). Iran has already stated that it will retaliate against the US and Israel for the death of their nuclear scientist, which might I remind you, they had no proof were involved in.
Yeah, the scientists probably just died from heat exhaustion or sleep deprivation. Something innocuous like that. I'm sure the US or Israel had nothing to do with anything.
I agree with you that it probably is one of the two. But we make a huge point in this country to not penalize subject someone to punishment for actions that can not be proven.
And assuming it is either Israel or the US. How do the actions of one country justify the retaliation against both? Especially when the US is working so diligently to remain non-violent?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-02-02 22:49:03
Not sure why the US is talking about other countries foreign policy..
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By Bismarck.Tarutarulord 2012-02-02 23:09:39
The US just needs to hurry up and glass that half of the planet.
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By Lakshmi.Jesi 2012-02-02 23:16:00
Sadly this will be the start of WWIII. NATO nations will ally with the US and Israel and sadly China and Russia will more than likely side with Iran.
Let's hope that if it does happen, that China and Russia would be too afraid of a nuclear war to back Iran.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-02 23:21:40
China and Russia already back Iran
By trucido 2012-02-02 23:29:06
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »What's funny is we have nuclear weapons capabilities. How would we feel if another country was planing to attack us to disarm our nuclear weapons? We'd say we're being attack by terrorists. Yet, when we and our allies are doing the same, it's an operation.
There's even little or no evidence that Iran is building nuclear weapons to begin with. We need to mind our own buisness and perhaps there won't be any animosity among other nations.
It's a little different when disarming a country the makes a promise to attack. We have not threatened to use any weapon on Iran (excluding non-violent economic sanctions). Iran has already stated that it will retaliate against the US and Israel for the death of their nuclear scientist, which might I remind you, they had no proof were involved in.
Yeah, the scientists probably just died from heat exhaustion or sleep deprivation. Something innocuous like that. I'm sure the US or Israel had nothing to do with anything.
I agree with you that it probably is one of the two. But we make a huge point in this country to not penalize subject someone to punishment for actions that can not be proven.
And assuming it is either Israel or the US. How do the actions of one country justify the retaliation against both? Especially when the US is working so diligently to remain non-violent? The way the attack was carried out was a clear hallmark of Israeli agents. Given the way Israel acts, even towards allies, I really highly doubt they didn't do it. Israel is incredibly rash in how it conducts itself for its own benefit.
Quote: US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta believes there is a "strong possibility" that Israel will strike Iran's nuclear installations this spring, the Washington Post said Thursday in an editorial.
When asked about the opinion piece by reporters travelling with him to a NATO meeting in Brussels, Panetta brushed it aside.
"I'm not going to comment on that. David Ignatius can write what he will but with regards with what I think and what I view, I consider that to be an area that belongs to me and nobody else," he said.
"Israel indicated they're considering this (a strike), we've indicated our concerns," he added.
The Post columnist said Panetta "believes there is a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June before Iran enters what Israelis described as a 'zone of immunity' to commence building a nuclear bomb."
Do you think it's just rhetoric or do you think this is a real possibility for the spring?
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