MS + Evis

Ok so im not too far off in obtaining my Mandau finally. So i have started to look into gear to get for WS.

Currently i will be using this:



Heca Leggings STR+1 ATK+1

This is for stacked (SA/TA) and unstacked. I know the Heca gear would be an obvious choice but i dont have access to fafnir etc so generally the Heca gear is a no go for me.

In hindsight this is my Evis WS set. Again the set remains the same for stacked and unstacked.



Heca Leggings STR+1 ATK+1

Any further improvements on either of these 2 sets would be very much appreciated. I know MS is a STR modifier and a Beir Belt +1 seems the logical choice, but wouldnt the DEX -7 hurt the WS?

Thanks in advance for your time in responding.

Chaos

Why are you using Rancor Collar for Mercy Stroke and not using it for Evisceration?

I don't get what you mean by, "I don't have access to faf ect" Also this ^

For MS, Pipilaka belt is a cheap upgrade from Warwolf, but I think soil/shadow belt might be superior. Toci's Harness would be an upgrade. Definitely swap out Rancor with gorget or Justiciars.

For Evisc, Oclelomeh Headpiece and Hecatomb subligar would be upgrades. Lithe boots may or may not be better than your Hecatomb leggings.

For some reason my item sets didnt update when i changed Gorget for Rancor on Evis. It showed one thing for item sets and another here :s

As for the MS WS set its just preliminary as i havent got the Mandau yet but should do in a few weeks fingers crossed, hence thinking ahead ^^

FFXI some how bugged, if you look at my sets on my profile youll see rancor there for evis :s

Hi what i meant was im not sure if i will have a group to kill him or not. I understand Heca is the better option i was just looking for alternatives to heca as well as i might not beablt to get them. Hope that clarified what i meant :)

but why are you using it for MS?

What about Oclelomeh Body +1 which i believe is the one version below Toci's? If im not mistaken isnt Toci's from VW? god only knows when that will drop with the terrible drop rates in VW ; ; But Oclelomeh headpece is definately something i can look into.

Yeah i though about elemental gorget and belt, but wasnt sure as they seemed to have been abandoned pretty much as of late for other alternatives.

You can definitely solo Fafnir, his accuracy is terrible and TP moves don't do more than 150. Nid is an easy duo with a healer, solo-able but wouldn't want to waste a Sweet tea :(

At present i just placed it there. As previously stated i dont yet have the WS. Its why im looking for info in advance so i can buy the relevant/get drops etc on items so when i get the WS ill have a set ready. I figured id post what i have currently in my inventory as a possible WS set then go from there.

Has he really gotten that bad :s hmmm maybe it might be worth trying it out. Thanks for the info

I guess what I am trying to say is since Mercy Stroke can't crit Rancor Collar is useless. Your Shadow Gorget would do nicely though.

Get a Hecatomb Cap+1. It doesn't matter how; bribe people, make friends, call in favors, anything. You're about to finish a relic, so you're not allow to come up with excuses. After that, get Nep Tatters and augment your Heca Cap+1 with Str, DA or preferably both.

Sea Gorget and Ire+1 are practically the same.

Get some real STR earring/rings. Personally, I don't bother with Brutal earring because I pop Assassin's charge enough and on average, a Brutal Earring provide as much damage as a +4str earring.

This is somewhat of a grey zone, but I use this for SAMercy: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10969/vigilance-mantle1

Pipilaka Belt for SAMercy, Beir Belt+1 for TAMercy. They're both far better than the fTP belt.

Feet could use better augments.

Qirmiz Tathlum is better for EVI than boomerang hat i use Cuauhtli headpiece+1 cuz im too poor for ocelometh+1 neck i use Love torque earrings Pixie+brutal and recently scored heca pants +1 But i have a Q. for rings EVI is Raja+Mar's good or Raja+thundersoul a must?

So changing the neck and belt to gorget/belt combo, we have this:



Ill try get a lil team for Heca cap and Legs at some point, but with them not there, Anything Else i can improve on? Im aware the Flame Pearl could be upgraded to a Vulcan's Pearl for the extra STR+1

tathlum is better for epeen yes, but for overall dot, it's worse.

I am pretty sure Cuau +1 beats Oce +1. The Dex mod is only 30% so the extra STR and Dagger skill will prob win out.

Extra STR can be seen as a 25% mod that caps, so assuming you're not already at cap

7x.25 = 1.75
6x.3 = 1.8

So, 1.75(that caps) + some dagger skill + couple points of atk vs 1.8(that doesn't cap)

Yeah thats why i said just for EVI lol >..> an macro it in and out? For Mercy Stroke you could go full heca+1 and augment it XD u dont need to fight HNM just spam einherjar

Attack is pretty nice though. I would still put my money on Cuau+1 because STR prob isn't capped. Also, assuming not capped STR, Aias might even beat Oce+1.

8 STR (2) vs 5 DEX (1.5)

If you macro tathlum and a boomerang, you lose tp.
Aka if you do this, please, stop.

So for MS, stacked Loki's would be better, unstacked Heca, Ocelemeh +1 or Toci?

FYI Aias should beat Oce hat by a good amount for evis (outside abyssea. Buffs cap str in there).


Not quite. You forgot the alpha based on level that reduces WSC. At lv 95, the alpha is 0.85, so you have to take
(Dex*0.3)*0.85. But because SE hates us even more, its actually floored after the 30% mod and then again after the 0.85 alpha.

Anyway, long story short, 0.3*0.85=.255.

Dex will avg 25.5% of its value added to damage. Str avgs about ~25%. They are virtually identical point for point in base damage.

Longer story shorter:
Oce=12*25% and 6acc
Aias=16*25% and 9acc, 4atk

*Aias wins on evis unstacked unless Fstr is capped (abyssea) easily. More acc, more atk, more base damage.
*Oce(nq) wins on evis if stacked with SA/TA because of the extra punch of 4 dex/12agi on SATA

Thanks for the maths its appreciated :) Thats actually helpd me out some already :)

:re Hecatomb Cap. You can also get an attack augment on it. I have +10 on mine. Toci's // Ocelm. are good, but Loki's is by no means a slouch. I tend to believe the str bodies are better on higher level stuff and loki's is better on lower level stuff. fstr, et cetera.