How To TH Proc

A debate has risen among my LS regarding TH and the most efficient/effective way to proc it on THF. I call upon my fellow THFs to help settle this argument.

Argument #1 - TH gear (incl. Thief's Knife) only needs to be worn for the first few hits when engaging a mob, then you may switch to your desired tp set.

Argument #2 - When TH is required it is best to full time the TH set to most effectively raise the TH level (I'm being told wearing TH entire fight causes more TH procs).

If you could let me know which view is correct, I'd appreciate it.

The first one. Although anything above TH2 is pretty wank anyways.

Once you see the TH message in the chat log you can change off of your knife and armlets

i'd keep the TH gear until a message pops up in the log saying "the TH level has risen to 7 or w/e" then i switch to the regular tp gear

As soon as you hit it, you can remove knife and armlets.

The message isn't a proc, it's just the increase in TH level.

Excellent guys, we share the same opinion and that helps me out a lot. Appreciate the quick responses^^

I'll go further, as soon as you do anything toward either the monster or a party member having hate, you enter hate list and therefore, TH is on.

Wearing TH gear after entering hate list is only good if you want to look like a retard, even if you didn't deal damage yet.

Has to be an action on the mob, curing won't put TH on the mob.

TH gear on - hit mob. TH gear off. Get a TH proc Ding TH7.

these seems to be two different points/arguments.

#1 where TH starts at

#2 how to effectively increase it after the initial effect is gained.

i guess what you meant to say was



If said THF is wearing capped TH6 gear at first damaging action the on the mob will give TH6 without a message. This will be the starting point.

i'm sure you got that answer from the above posts.

TP in TH gear will increase the rate of increase. i.e the initial TH+1 which gives you a message.

tping in th gear after the initial proc or first message is another argument.

augment#1 Even if tping in TH gear has an increased rate. i dont need more than TH7 because TH2 is enough.

augment #2 tping in TH gear is gimp because i rather do more DoT.

augment #3 it doesnt give an increase so i just switch back to tp gear

Argument 2 Is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

You can upgrade to TH12 wearing nothing, and starting from TH3. The only thing that TH Gear does at this point is determine your starting point.

But its already been said, Equip TH Gear > Hit mob > Take it off. You'll upgrade the same. Random is random!

I have noticed that landing a hard crit can increase chances to proc the 1st TH increase from Sneak Attack. I been getting it alot. Not sure if this is true just my suspicions.

Why don't people accept this? All you gotta do is do a ranged attack with th crap on and take it off. You dont have to gimp yourself for 31851571 swings before u get TH7 in chatlog.

I believe they said that SA and TA have a higher chance to proc Upgrade.

I feel it has something to do with Critical hits, or damage in general. But as i have no proof, its more of a belief.

that's odd for me its never been random. hit or miss always 7.
the only difference is the nms are none abyssea.

I wish more people knew this fact. I keep seeing tons of thieves fulltiming thf knife, *** armlets and stuff...some even atma of dread <_<

If you believe something HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE like this why wouldnt it be possible that wearing full TH gear gives a better chance to upgrade TH level

no testing has been done, noone knows, if all youre doing is TH whoring it really doesnt matter!

Crap is random. In abyssea I've went from 8 to 10 (first proc 8) in the first three SA TA attacks, and then on the same mob, next pop, went from 8 to 9 using it the entire fight.
But yeah, full TH first hit, take everything off after that. I'm pretty sure wearing full TH the entire fight is meaningless.

Can pull with RA miss and it still TH's the mob... do it all the time and proc to 7-8 in dynamis. Things like dynamis isn't prolly really worth changing out the knife every mob or anthing where you just fight fodder mobs. NM's that you aren't the tank you are probably better off just hitting it with SA/TA and staying off seems too work better. At least imo.

Oh, Damn, I must have ***in your cheerios lately, not surprising. Its more of a very loose belief. Its not like i go around telling this to people and calling them stupid for not believing it? I mean, Really?

I must have pissed you off something fierce for you to be stretching this hard to call me out on something. Did i decline an invite from you? How hard you're raining down on me saying "I have a feeling it may be xxx" that you'd think I punched your mom.

Maybe a stupid question, but can your first hits on the mob (or first action toward the mob/member with hate) be in tp gear (TH3) then switch to armlets/feet/knife and set the TH to TH6 according to gear, or does it stay where you first established hate?

It'll immediately upgrade to the highest base TH.

I'll use dread when my sole purpose is for TH, that is, when the leader of my group forbids anyone but the tank on the mob. Just SA TA and WS when I have the TP.
I know the difference is ***, but I like having TH 8 proc on the first hit. It's a nice number ;)

In dynamis, I'll just leave the knife on most of the time. Sometimes the TP loss doesn't seem worth it.

I personally keep TH gears on for the first 10s I started fighting a mob then switch to max haste set (faster you hit the more chances you get to augment the TH on).And I can confirm it work, I processed TH7 numerous times wearing my TP set.

Sweet, I was thinking for like 10min of a way to set a variable in spellcast for when TH is established to unequip armlets/feet. But that settles it. Thanks!

In situations like Dynamis i think its safer to just wear two Awesome Knives and not worry about the jump from TH5 to TH6.

Theres a fine chance the Killspeed increase will likely make up from the yet unknown % increase TH 6 Holds over TH5