SE Should Make ALL NM Force Pop

I enjoy nm camping. It gives me time to sit around and think about how shitty my life is.

I lol'd at this thread.

Camping brings out competition which in turn makes better players, people who cry and moan like a baby about how they should make NM force pop just suck, it's a loser excuse.

SE should not make NM force pop, you should make yourself a better player.

well bot make better player ?

no!! just well geared cheater and you get your skill form trying to kill them not form camping them for 3 hr to see some bot get claim

Why would you bump this? The answer is no, they will never be force popped.

yes botter will allways get mad at this post

It's so hard for me not to troll or flame you. But if I do you'll QQ to the mods because your so defenseless and I'll be locked out of the thread due to a certain mod acting like the hand of justice.

Yes, lets pander to bad players.

As poor as Barrds English is, I have to agree with this. Sitting in a zone for hours and hours on end waiting for a mob to appear has absolutely nothing to do with skill. The majority of timed NM's out there pop in a fairly wide area, so it after all that time and effort killing place-holders and waiting around, the NM (any NM) can pop well out of your reach and be taken by someone else. Skill plays no part in camping what-so-ever, the skill comes in after you claim.

I can completely sympathise with wanting all NMs to be force pop, unfortunately rather than making it easier, it would mean that the regular mobs that drop the pop items would be highly competed over instead.

but that give you a more of a random shot at geting the item over a claim of a bot

Not really, you can still bot regular mobs, and (I haven't read 90% of this thread) if it's any NM with a half decent drop, it just gives the botters a chance to make even more money, as it's a lot easier to sell r/e items when you can choose when the NM will pop.

i sayin that you can make it pop like JOL or like geting the black belt items

Regardless of the bump, force pop NM, um..... no thank you? I would like to see more pop-claimed NM's, such as Despot in sky. I know SE changed it to stop RMT from their activities, and I have bitched about RMT before, but this is not about that. True Placeholder NM's such as VE and LL, just examples, should be pop-claimed, imo. Is that going to get attacked, most likely yes. Spend 3 days killing PH for an NM, and watch some jackoff whos just been standing around take your NM, not once, but several times. I realize it is all part of luck and knowing how to claim stuff, I comprehend that, and do not contest it. However, the idea of pop-claimed NM's that drop Rare/Ex gear would be completely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, can't make any money off them anyway. Use Megalobugard as an example of a non Rare/Ex dropping NM; I know its not highly camped, never was on Remora or on Sylph to my knowledge, but if you kill the PH, should someone not doing the work get the NM just because they were standing closer to it? That I don't agree with, but that's just my thoughts on it. I realize i sorta contradicted myself with my examples, but look at all of the NM's that drop non Rare/Ex items, those are the ones that should be pop-claimed. Attack it if you want, but it's just how I feel.

My opnion about HNM being force pop, i think that they should be but would be something like: If you want pop a HNM on Zilart area you should pop with a key Item bought with conquest points if TOAU Area with IS points and if WOTG area with AN... that gonna stop the bots and monopoly from ls at some item and yet force ppl to play at these areas and not only killing birds or manaburn at Qufim...

just my opnion, because would be easier to get 18 ppl together farming these points to pop Fafnir and get a Ridill than pay 25M to an ls ( on Remora )...

Theres no competition in having a 50 person ls or bot out claim u, just makes it harder for smaller ls to have a chance.

Thats why i like ZNM, u can pick what u want when u want and dont have to waste ur life waiting for pop or claim.

I just don't like the idea of ppl calling these ppl thtt bot skilled player for cheating.

When thay get the item ya it make then a better /eqip play but it make them say thing like ya im better then you and thay are not thay just bot. pop item will make it so every 1 can have a shot at it and then get the good items after some hard work

Force pop all nms /

linkshell event: Spam Fafny 10 pops in 1 day

>.>

sure you will farm as a LS more for triggers, but then all the LS's would spam trade the ??? every time time it pops

Edit: If HNM's require NM drops or key item drops to pop. LS would monopolize those NM's more

See you forget this game isnt about you. SE is a company and they need customers. If players can have more access to items/nm then more people will pay and play.

"[dev1009] New Trigger Conditions for Notorious Monsters
•[dev1009] New Trigger Conditions for Notorious Monsters

•Trigger conditions for following notorious monsters will be adjusted to spawn by trading specific items to the “???” in the respective area.
Fafnir / Nidhogg: Dragon’s Aery
Behemoth / King Behemoth: Behemoth’s Dominion
Adamantoise / Aspidochelone: Valley of Sorrows

- The ”???” will respawn a minute after the battle is over.
- The NM will despawn if unclaimed for 90 seconds at the spawned location.
- The feature wherein the level of these monsters will increase after battling them for a period of time will remain unchanged.

•How to obtain the trigger items:
Fafnir: Treasure from “Early Bird Catches the Wyrm”
Behemoth: Treasure from “Horns of War”
Adamantoise: Treasure from “The Hills are Alive”
* At least one of these items will be dropped in every battle.

Nidhogg: Treasure dropped by Fafnir
King Behemoth: Treasure dropped by Behemoth
Aspidochelone: Treasure dropped by Adamantoise


•The treasures dropped by the following notorious monsters will be adjusted as follows:
Fafnir : Wyrm Beard removed
Nidhogg : Drop rate of Wyrm Beard decreased
Behemoth : Behemoth Tongue removed
King Behemoth : Drop rate of Behemoth Tongue decreased
Adamantoise : Adamantoise Egg removed
Aspidochelone : Drop rate of Adamantoise Egg decreased

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If you wish to discuss or submit feedback on this topic, please use the [dev1009] tag.
*Details on obtaining the NM trigger items were updated on April 20, 2011. "

All i can say is i told you so

All I can say is Holy Necrobump.

I lol'd.

Told us what? All I saw on the OP was some whinning...

i email them this more then 2 yr ago with the way to to get the pop items

And now every (bandwagon) monk knows who to blacklist.

I'm not so sure. I could definitely see them changing more lotteries to KI that drop off mobs of the same family.

IE: Kill the Toramas in Onzozo for a KI that will pop Ose. 1-5% drop rate of KI.

I can definitely see them doing this for more lottery spawns.

Lol.


I didn't even realize it was a really old thread at first. I checked the month and day of the OP, didn't notice the year till I saw a post from Numbertwo. That's when I checked the year and saw how old this thread was.