Caladabolg Build.
Caladabolg Build.
I must be one of the few people who sees little to no reason to use A&O in their personal setups. I can't find anywhere to work it in -- on drk or otherwise -- that it outweighs other Atma.
There's really no reason not to use it on DRK if the HP- doesn't create survivability issues. Other jobs it depends but it's often a good counterpart to Apoc or even superior to it; people just like free Reraise and Quick Magic with no drawbacks.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
There's really no reason not to use it on DRK if the HP- doesn't create survivability issues. Other jobs it depends but it's often a good counterpart to Apoc or even superior to it; people just like free Reraise and Quick Magic with no drawbacks.
I virtually never use drk in a situation where I won't be getting hit frequently and casting. I'll stick with my Apoc.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
There's really no reason not to use it on DRK if the HP- doesn't create survivability issues. Other jobs it depends but it's often a good counterpart to Apoc or even superior to it; people just like free Reraise and Quick Magic with no drawbacks.
I can't see how 5% TA can be inferior to +40 att... but maybe I read that wrong. As far as the +40 att goes, I'm not hurting for att and there are pieces of equipment that I can make up for that with w/o sacrificing much else, but there is 0 way for a drk to get +5% TA in gear.
Also, it's not only about the -hp that A&O gives, but also about the 10% pdt- that Lion gives. I would probably use A&O if only one of those were the in play, but the fact that you get to keep your hp and have 10% pdt- means you will survive longer.
I think it's just coming down to what you do with the job. I stick with Apoc b/c I solo a lot and I don't want the HP hit and I enjoy the quick magic.
I can't see A&O being better in most situations unless you're -really- hurting for attack. Apoc gives 5% more TA.
Also, if I'm reading the wiki entry right, Lion isn't +40 attack, it's +40 lightning attack. Though wiki could be wrong or I could be misinterpreting.
I'll take Apoc over either.
I can't see A&O being better in most situations unless you're -really- hurting for attack. Apoc gives 5% more TA.
Also, if I'm reading the wiki entry right, Lion isn't +40 attack, it's +40 lightning attack. Though wiki could be wrong or I could be misinterpreting.
I'll take Apoc over either.
Y'arr. But what I mean is that the +lightning attack is not doing drk much good either way.
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
you will have the most sexiest raiden thrust possible as you proc yeah thats about it
i never sub drg, war, or pld on drk T.T
The +40 att was in reference to a&o not lion. Side note I also use lion as blue for charged whisker.
I dont have Caladbolg yet but I should be getting it tonight or tomorrow morning. I've been thinking about what I would need to throw together a good TP/WS this is what I have so far..
TP:
I don't have the gil to get White Tathlum right now..but its on my radar.
WS:
Is there anything that really stands out that I am missing or that I should get ASAP for either set?
TP:
I don't have the gil to get White Tathlum right now..but its on my radar.
WS:
Is there anything that really stands out that I am missing or that I should get ASAP for either set?
Jingang Hose/Greaves for ws?
Bahamut.Xslayrx said:
Jingang Hose/Greaves for ws?
You're at 99.1 TP/cycle without WTath, so you'll need to make that STP up somewhere or you're looking at an 8-hit. Also iirc Spiral > Terrasoul.
EDIT: New WS hands wouldn't be a bad idea.
Yeah I thought about those as well...just depends on the price of each peice. My pockets aren't very deep.
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Yeah I thought about those as well...just depends on the price of each peice. My pockets aren't very deep.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Xslayrx said:
Jingang Hose/Greaves for ws?
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Yeah I thought about those as well...just depends on the price of each peice. My pockets aren't very deep.
If you cant afford White tat, then use Attila's over Bale Earring until you can get one, will push you into a 7-hit, but you will need to WS in Rajas.
Armada Mufflers with synergy augment of vit is best ws piece (hand slot) atm for caladbolg. Look into it.
Fenrir.Gradd said:
If you cant afford White tat, then use Attila's over Bale Earring until you can get one, will push you into a 7-hit, but you will need to WS in Rajas.
Sorry for the super delayed response..
TP (with carbonara)
Zorander as you mentioned you dont have the gilz for WT
WS
keep getting unlucky on versa mufflers (oh and the augment comes from abys-atto not synergy)
this should true 6 hit with using carbonara (17.2x5 + 14.5) it is only 22% haste tho and should beat 7 hit capped gear haste build
with Haste and Last Resort (5 merits)
7 hits * 2.53 secs per hit = 17.5 secs to 100% TP (capped haste)
6 hits * 2.78 secs per hit = 16.68 secs to 100% TP (not capped haste)
but this all depends on your preferance
Zorander as you mentioned you dont have the gilz for WT
WS
keep getting unlucky on versa mufflers (oh and the augment comes from abys-atto not synergy)
this should true 6 hit with using carbonara (17.2x5 + 14.5) it is only 22% haste tho and should beat 7 hit capped gear haste build
with Haste and Last Resort (5 merits)
7 hits * 2.53 secs per hit = 17.5 secs to 100% TP (capped haste)
6 hits * 2.78 secs per hit = 16.68 secs to 100% TP (not capped haste)
but this all depends on your preferance
I was referring to augmenting Adaman Hands which you can get +5 Vit on NQ not Versa mufflers.
True 6 hit while using inferior food and 22% Haste > 7hit using better gear better food and 26% haste?
True 6 hit while using inferior food and 22% Haste > 7hit using better gear better food and 26% haste?
i was only stating in terms of TP rate i cant true 6 hut so i use capped gear haste
um drk cant use pebble, just so ya know
Seems like you have to use a lot of less attractive gear to obtain 6hit..well and use carbonara.
its possible to 6 hit (i think) with aurum body and white tathlum and not use carbonara too but not looked in to it since i dont have aurum body
will look into hit later
oh yeah sorry then bibiki seashell then fixed, i use Oneiros pebble for PLD caladbolg, prob why i added it
will look into hit later
veddertehtaco said:
um drk cant use pebble, just so ya know
I don't have it either.
For now I'll have to stick with 7hit.
For now I'll have to stick with 7hit.
there are times where ur avg number of attacks (mostly in abyssea where u use triple attack atmas) and going for 6hit build is kinda counter productive due to tp oveflow, not a huge issue since tor is tp dmg modified but inside aby i settle for 7hit w/o any super special gears and i generally do pretty good, outside id have to agree with the more versed ppl here (gradd/taint/returner)that shooting for 6hit is where to go with it since tor is pretty beastly outside an a 6hit isnt too farfetched if u can attain the gears for it, which /sadpandaface i currently dont think i can
there was a dmg calc around the forums that also might prove interseting to check out builds with, think ark pointed it out, an i believe it showed a 7hit beating a 6hit but dont quote me on it, been ahwile since i toyed with it
and totally off topic here, but does anyone know how to get my 90cala to show up? my ls and i have a bunch of emps that arent showing on any of our profiles and we are totally stumped on how to fix this.....
and totally off topic here, but does anyone know how to get my 90cala to show up? my ls and i have a bunch of emps that arent showing on any of our profiles and we are totally stumped on how to fix this.....
veddertehtaco said:
there was a dmg calc around the forums that also might prove interseting to check out builds with, think ark pointed it out, an i believe it showed a 7hit beating a 6hit but dont quote me on it, been ahwile since i toyed with it
and totally off topic here, but does anyone know how to get my 90cala to show up? my ls and i have a bunch of emps that arent showing on any of our profiles and we are totally stumped on how to fix this.....
and totally off topic here, but does anyone know how to get my 90cala to show up? my ls and i have a bunch of emps that arent showing on any of our profiles and we are totally stumped on how to fix this.....
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