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Spirit Link and Atmas
 Shiva.Xellith
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-01-11 06:24:32
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can you give your pet atmas?
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By Gilgamesh.Topdogg 2011-01-11 06:38:47
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sure
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By BorealisV2 2011-01-11 06:45:11
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I think the real question here is:

Can your pet give you Atmas?

Think about it.
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2011-01-11 07:21:27
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Atma of the Dragon Rider:

Magic Attack Bonus: Minor
Enhances "Dragon Killer" Effect: Minor
(Wyvern) HP+: Superior

I'm gonna say you cant give your pets atmas D:
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-01-11 07:44:21
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Your pet's inherently get your atma's off the bat. I used to use Ebon Hoof, Impregnable tower, and dragon rider. Surviveability of my wyvern became an issue at times due to AOE etc so i began swapping out ebon hoof for impenetrable (i kept impregnable over hoof for the magic attack on smiting breaths). Honestly though now-a-days getting that much hp back at a time is obnoxious. I can usually go with VV/RR/ and toss on dragon rider and keep my kill rate up while still not dying. It's all situational though.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-01-11 08:35:44
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Easy test: Get VV > /echo <pettp> > wait 3 seconds > /echo <pettp>

Short answer: Yes
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2011-01-13 12:22:13
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Yes. Which ever atmas you choose, your wyvern gets those stats bonuses too. Like Ashman said, taking Hp+ helps alot. Not only does your wyvern pretty much not die, you're healing breaths are gunna be around 1k without Deep breathing. More likely more, depending ony our HB set up.

So yes, you can ^^
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-01-15 11:18:32
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do those curor buffs count as the same as atmas though? Im sorry i got em mixed up ><
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2011-01-15 11:20:49
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Yeh, any buffs you get on yourself, your pet gets too ^^ Atmas or crour, you get em both!
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By Phoenix.Jimie 2011-01-15 11:25:59
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Bismarck.Tuvae said:
Yeh, any buffs you get on yourself, your pet gets too ^^ Atmas or crour, you get em both!

Pets don't get cruor buffs.
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2011-01-15 11:27:16
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Odd... So when i buy them and Azures HP goes to max he isnt getting then? :/
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By Carbuncle.Shadowwind 2011-01-15 11:33:34
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They don't copy cruor buffs at all. Would be a little insane letting them copy those since I've seen them shoot as high as 50. That'd be 100+ bonus to certain stats when combined with atmas and insane survivability as well with the hp bonus. Abyssea is broken enough, that'd just make pet jobs even moreso.
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2011-01-15 11:43:40
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But when i get my atmas, i go into the yellow HP and Azures HP isnt at max either, when i buy crour buffs, both Azure and my HP go to max :/ Does it just cure him rather than giving him buffs?
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-01-15 11:47:33
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A simple test for this is to fight the Thew Bomblet NM. If the HP down and MP down afflictions land on your wyvern, then no, they do not have the cruor buffs. Or even any of those mandragoras and watch if Scream lands MND down on your wyvern.

Last time I remember fighting it, Khocha got the status effect of MP down. Seems odd, but I guess they don't get those buffs.
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By Carbuncle.Shadowwind 2011-01-15 11:49:57
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Possible? Never paid attention to that. I'm a smn so I usually don't have pets out when I'm getting buffs, and in the rare chance I do for whatever reason, they're full hp anyway because I generally get VV/MM/RR so no hp bonus to be had there. Its also possible it might work differently for wyverns? Although I doubt that. Odds are it does restore your pet's hp as a side effect of restoring yours with receiving the buffs. Intended or bug, who knows. Probably whats happening though.
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By Carbuncle.Shadowwind 2011-01-15 11:51:45
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Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
A simple test for this is to fight the Thew Bomblet NM. If the HP down and MP down afflictions land on your wyvern, then no, they do not have the cruor buffs. Or even any of those mandragoras and watch if Scream lands MND down on your wyvern.

Last time I remember fighting it, Khocha got the status effect of MP down. Seems odd, but I guess they don't get those buffs.

Not sure on this as I'm generally out of range on that NM, but the manticores in abyssea-altepa can still land riddle on me, even with the buffs.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-01-15 11:53:06
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Carbuncle.Shadowwind said:
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
A simple test for this is to fight the Thew Bomblet NM. If the HP down and MP down afflictions land on your wyvern, then no, they do not have the cruor buffs. Or even any of those mandragoras and watch if Scream lands MND down on your wyvern.

Last time I remember fighting it, Khocha got the status effect of MP down. Seems odd, but I guess they don't get those buffs.

Not sure on this as I'm generally out of range on that NM, but the manticores in abyssea-altepa can still land riddle on me, even with the buffs.

Some debuffs trump, some don't. Just like different versions of slow. Some will overwrite your haste, some will have no effect. That particular NM can't overwrite you with HP down as long as you have cruor HP buffs.
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By Carbuncle.Shadowwind 2011-01-15 11:55:07
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Doesn't overwrite either which is weird. It tags on as its own debuff, but my cruor MP buff is still there and everything goes back to normal when riddle goes away. Kind of strange.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-01-15 11:55:56
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Wyverns definitely don't get HP buffs etc. Still a puny ~1500 HP I'd say. Most AoE stuff oneshots em in Heroes.
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