Abyssea Nin Seeks Advice

Wouldn't Epona's Ring be best choice for weaponskill to?

I would agree, as additional hit also provide chance for crit upon those hits.

its worth mentioning that ninja can hit delay cap with only 25% haste in gear

delay cap, which caps at 80% of your total delay. via gear/ja/magic haste and dual wield traits/gear.

w/ haste samba ninja can hit delay cap w/ just af3+2 head and suppa + traits for dualwield and 25% haste. (im on break from work atm so not gonna dig for maths/info to back this statement up, you can however learn more about the delay- cap and come up with your own gearset for what works for you.)

and for anyone who says they will never have a dnc in their party
/dnc works just fine on ninja.
berserk isn't needed if you full-time stalwarts tonic from blue chests (5min potion).

25% gear haste, 10% haste samba, 45% DW

(1-0.45)*(1-0.35)=0.3575, or 64.25% delay reduction. You're not capped with this, unless you forgot to mention an additional buff or two.

More TP only give more critical hit rate, not worth when you can cap it i think.

Does the: Occ. grants dmg. bonus based on TP +5% work on WS?

yea sorry i didn't get to proof read that post. I meant with standard buffs; marches/haste.
the point was that nin does not have to hit 26% haste in gear to still hit the delay- cap, sorry i wasn't clear on the buffs part :x
also /dnc haste samba is only 5% sadly :(

nin can hit the delay- w/o /dnc haste samba if they have 90relic brd friend tho :O (need af3+2 brd hands as well iirc).

Would be 5% from Haste Samba.

Was assuming you meant DNC main samba since you didn't specify~ thanks for clarifying.

This is main Haste/DW Gear Set for now...Yes I know I don't have coolio ring yet, lol (*^.^*)



Haste:
Iga Zukin+2=(5.95)
Tiercel Necklace=(1.07)
Twilight Belt=(6.93)
Iga Hakama +2=(6.93)
Iga Kyahan +2=(3.91)

TOTAL: (24.79 Percent Haste) +5% if Nin/Dnc (Haste Samba)

Dual Wield:
Iga Mimikazari=(1%)
Suppanomimi=(5%)
Iga Zukin +2=(5%)
Job Trait=(35%)

TOTAL: (46% Dual Wield)

Total Delay Reduction = (1-(1-Total Haste%)*(1-Total DW%))

(1-(1-.2979)*(1-.46));

(1-(0.7021)*(0.54);

(1-0.379134)= 0.620866 } 62.1% Since always rounded down

If You where to use Ninja Chainmail(+1) + Cheap Aurore Gloves to truly cap haste, allowing you to wear another neck piece if you would like. replace Mimi with your Brutal. (I have a hunch although I can not verify cap DW caps at 50% DR, no clue though really)

You would be @ 65% Total delay Reduction. As for solo play/Buffs this is as high as you can get.

drop that JSE earring and keep Brutals. the 5% double attack will easily beat out the 1% delay reduction.

how do you post your gear set ?

Thanks back to duty :(

Thanks for serving our country Bro.

Thanks for the advice. I remember when the Mimikazari was discovered and people thought it was 5% then 3% and now 1%? It keeps getting worse and worse.

The only other melee job I have is SAM so I tend to not look at +attack gear for WS. I do have Aesir and Merman's, but Centaurus is damn cheap so I'll pick one of those up. As far as the Tekko +1, I don't have any plans for doing Limbus anytime soon so I'd prefer any other alternatives. Would Bandomusha Kote be better than Iga +1(+2) when pDIF is uncapped? Also, how do you know when your pDIF is uncapped? Is there some general rule like generally uncapped on mobs of a certain level? For example, I know Berserk really ups my Jin damage on certain mobs, so I assume pDIF is uncapped in that situation.

I'm pretty sure you're joking, but I actually farmed most of the gear with some good friends in the few weeks after I levelled NIN. My freshly levelled NIN had a lot of hand-me-downs from SAM, so it was pretty awful.

I started stockpiling freelot Iga seals before I was planning to level NIN, so that helped a lot since I honestly think getting the +1 is a larger time sink than the +2 since luck plays a bigger factor even with proc'ing grellow. I'm really happy with the progression I made in a few weeks and am grateful to my abyssea group who helped me. I'm finding NIN to be a really fun job, especially inside Abyssea compared to SAM.

Thanks, but I don't see myself getting a ring anytime soon. :(

Random Question but does Iga Ningi +2 always beat Ninja Chainmail (+1)? As good as the stats are, I always saw it as a WS piece.

if your are hitting delay- or close to it than af3+2 body or loki's body will beat it.

basically just macro it in for tp if your getting marches/haste.

Bandos are ever so slightly better with Berserk down if you don't need accuracy. With the inherent variability of pDIF equations and throwing a crit WS into the mix it's not really easy to tell when you're capping pDIF on WS. As a general rule you can probably assume you're capping on EXP mobs with Berserk up and meat, especially if they're being debuffed. NMs often don't have significantly higher defense, so you could compare those numbers and bear in mind whether or not the NM has any sort of -PDT as a decent guess.

As mentioned, AF body beats AF3+2 for TP unless you're capping delay reduction (or if you need acc).