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 Bismarck.Tuvae
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2010-11-17 16:04:33
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Ok, so this is my current Guillotine set up. Currently in dynamis. Im finding my average WS is around 1400. Now, with a dmg rating of 118 on no so tough mobs (jueno) I feel it should be somewhat higher than 1400. Can someone point me to what im doing wrong? Do I need more MND in there? Is it acc?

Btw, those WSs are x2 minuet and yellow currey buns. My highest is 2434, but still the average is lurking around 1400. >< What am i doing wrong? Thanks in advance for any advice.

EDIT: If im not doing this wrong, im spelling "it" wrong in the title.
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By Ragnarok.Tingil 2010-11-17 16:16:39
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Maybe you have just been spoilt by abyssea? I am the same way doing events outside abyssea such as Dyn, granted DRK has no crit ws for wow dmg but I feel hitting under 2k almost everytime is alittle depressing on other stuff, your gear seems acceptable to me though maybe wanna look into a snow gorget.
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2010-11-17 16:19:24
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I rarely take my DRK into abyssea... skills are capped... Guess i will look into a gorget, id say it probably is acc ><
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-11-17 16:19:35
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Bismarck.Tuvae said:


Ok, so this is my currency Guillotine set up. Currently in dynamis. Im finding my average WS is around 1400. Now, with a dmg rating of 118 on no so tough mobs (jueno) I feel it should be somewhat higher than 1400. Can someone point me to what im doing wrong? Do I need more MND in there? Is it acc?

Btw, those WSs are x2 minuet and yellow currey buns. My highest is 2434, but still the average is lurking around 1400. >< What am i doing wrong? Thanks in advance for any advice.

EDIT: If im not doing this wrong, im spelling "it" wrong in the title.

You aren't using MarchX2?
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2010-11-17 16:22:09
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Nope, thats why i said minuet x2. Otherwise id be lying to you all.
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By Bahamut.Satanas 2010-11-17 16:22:49
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Bale choker is also a very nice piece for neck.

Edit: If you have scythe merits with your skill capped, than try using varangian helm.
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By Ragnarok.Tingil 2010-11-17 16:22:51
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If it's an acc problem you will notice from tp returns, 1400 guillotines in dyn seems generous to me anyway and my DRK is a tad better then yours, granted I've not taken it into dyna in some months, the dmg you're putting out seems ok to me.
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By Fairy.Zeph 2010-11-17 16:23:45
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There are improvements you could make in gear, but none that are drastic. Acc shouldn't be too much of a problem in dyna with lvl 85 skill / 2hnder / A+ weapon.

Guillotine is just a pretty lame WS, it always needed major buffs to do damage comparable to other 2hnd WS.

So yea, you're not doing it terrible, but you're still a drk. ;_;

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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-11-17 16:24:00
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you dont have a gorget?
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-11-17 16:32:24
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I srsly doubt it's acc..you are 85 now and have gained 60 lvl's in scythe skill..you can basically be naked in dynamis at 85 and have capped acc..(fine fine just a tidbit sarcastic.)

Minor changes could be..

HecaCap
Better 2nd Earring for ws.
Sea Gorget
And if you are capped acc..then Bomb Core > Fire Bomblet.
Haub+1/Hauberk+1 would also be better. Not sure about Zahaks, Noct or Grim.
Maybe even Heca feet?
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-11-17 16:36:22
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Bahamut.Zorander said:
I srsly doubt it's acc..you are 85 now and have gained 60 lvl's in scythe skill..you can basically be naked in dynamis at 85 and have capped acc..(fine fine just a tidbit sarcastic.)

Minor changes could be..

HecaCap
Better 2nd Earring for ws.
Sea Gorget
And if you are capped acc..then Bomb Core > Fire Bomblet.
Haub+1/Hauberk+1 would also be better. Not sure about Zahaks, Noct or Grim.
Maybe even Heca feet?

heca feet is a no no when guil has +mind and +str mods

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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-11-17 16:43:15
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Your setup looks fine, there are very minor improvements that you could actually make on it.

Here is what I guillotine in:



Before somebody jumps me with the "OMG Ares for multi-hit" Thats why we have something called Razed Ruins for 37 Moar ACC :)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-11-17 16:46:44
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Rampage is where it's at. People still guillotine?
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-11-17 16:49:56
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Rampage is where it's at. People still guillotine?

How hard is rampage hitting? I wasnt sure how much RR would actually boost it o.O
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By Ragnarok.Tingil 2010-11-17 16:50:13
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*** I never even thought of that in abyssea, sooo gonna try that.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-11-17 16:51:30
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Rampage is where it's at. People still guillotine?

How hard is rampage hitting? I wasnt sure how much RR would actually boost it o.O
I only saw 1 screen shot of it on BG, but it was 3.5kish, I'll see if I can find it.
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By Ragnarok.Tingil 2010-11-17 16:52:13
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Rampage is where it's at. People still guillotine?

How hard is rampage hitting? I wasnt sure how much RR would actually boost it o.O

An Apoc DRK in my LS going out of his mind because DRK has no crit hit ws, I would love to go DRK and ***on him with RR+SS with an axe.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-11-17 16:52:40
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Seraph.Rafik said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
I srsly doubt it's acc..you are 85 now and have gained 60 lvl's in scythe skill..you can basically be naked in dynamis at 85 and have capped acc..(fine fine just a tidbit sarcastic.) Minor changes could be.. HecaCap Better 2nd Earring for ws. Sea Gorget And if you are capped acc..then Bomb Core > Fire Bomblet. Haub+1/Hauberk+1 would also be better. Not sure about Zahaks, Noct or Grim. Maybe even Heca feet?
heca feet is a no no when guil has +mind and +str mods
Cuz 3mnd really is game breaking?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-11-17 16:52:56
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Correction: 3.2
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By Ragnarok.Tingil 2010-11-17 16:54:22
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3.2k is on DRK? and with what atma exactly?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-11-17 16:56:37
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Well Razed ruins for sure. I'd assume the other to be V Violet and yea it's on drk
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-11-17 16:58:06
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Guess im going to be skilling up in dynamis today <.<
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-11-17 16:58:17
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What would off hand weap be? ToM im sure but what?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-11-17 16:59:34
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not 100% sure, since that screen shot was a response to brd w/ evis being able to out DD drk and sam in abyssea, but I'd assume ridill offhand.
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By Ragnarok.Tingil 2010-11-17 17:05:36
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Well Ruins and Sanguine Scythe would be the crit cap, with axe I would think they are the way to go, but might have a few acc issues depending on gear and being a 1 hander.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-11-17 17:07:46
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Axe/Ridill could be specatular on drk with RR/VV...I should just keep dlvling my drk to 80 so I can use Axe/Octave lol.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-11-17 17:17:24
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Bahamut.Zorander said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
I srsly doubt it's acc..you are 85 now and have gained 60 lvl's in scythe skill..you can basically be naked in dynamis at 85 and have capped acc..(fine fine just a tidbit sarcastic.) Minor changes could be.. HecaCap Better 2nd Earring for ws. Sea Gorget And if you are capped acc..then Bomb Core > Fire Bomblet. Haub+1/Hauberk+1 would also be better. Not sure about Zahaks, Noct or Grim. Maybe even Heca feet?
heca feet is a no no when guil has +mind and +str mods
Cuz 3mnd really is game breaking?

stop smoking crack

the af+1 feet are better than heca for guill
he can replace his flame ring with something not -mind
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-11-17 17:17:28
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Raen says he's doing some comparative math on Scythe vs Axe, so I'd probably wait for him. His math is solid, and he's a drk enthusiast.
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-11-17 17:24:48
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Seraph.Rafik said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
I srsly doubt it's acc..you are 85 now and have gained 60 lvl's in scythe skill..you can basically be naked in dynamis at 85 and have capped acc..(fine fine just a tidbit sarcastic.) Minor changes could be.. HecaCap Better 2nd Earring for ws. Sea Gorget And if you are capped acc..then Bomb Core > Fire Bomblet. Haub+1/Hauberk+1 would also be better. Not sure about Zahaks, Noct or Grim. Maybe even Heca feet?
heca feet is a no no when guil has +mind and +str mods
Cuz 3mnd really is game breaking?
stop smoking crack the af+1 feet are better than heca for guill he can replace his flame ring with something not -mind
I do not smoke crack...I was just simply saying.

I would love to know how much more damage AF+1 gives you when compared to Heca. In his current TP set he has +1 mnd. I use Heca feet on drk..i'll save my inventory space for items that will actually make a difference.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-11-17 17:29:53
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Bahamut.Zorander said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
I srsly doubt it's acc..you are 85 now and have gained 60 lvl's in scythe skill..you can basically be naked in dynamis at 85 and have capped acc..(fine fine just a tidbit sarcastic.) Minor changes could be.. HecaCap Better 2nd Earring for ws. Sea Gorget And if you are capped acc..then Bomb Core > Fire Bomblet. Haub+1/Hauberk+1 would also be better. Not sure about Zahaks, Noct or Grim. Maybe even Heca feet?
heca feet is a no no when guil has +mind and +str mods
Cuz 3mnd really is game breaking?
stop smoking crack the af+1 feet are better than heca for guill he can replace his flame ring with something not -mind
I do not smoke crack...I was just simply saying.

I would love to know how much more damage AF+1 gives you when compared to Heca. In his current TP set he has +1 mnd. I use Heca feet on drk..i'll save my inventory space for items that will actually make a difference.

so, dont bother getting Bale Sollerets +1, since they only have +1str more than heca feet

an improvement is an improvement no matter how small
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