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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-05 06:42:37
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Fire dmg+ are better I think. I'd use Lone Wolf/Smoldering Sky/Ultimate for brew.
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By Shiva.Fereydoon 2011-07-05 07:37:33
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Phoenix.Sehachan said:
Fire dmg+ are better I think. I'd use Lone Wolf/Smoldering Sky/Ultimate for brew.
Griffon Claw should beat out Ultimate for brew.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-05 07:40:15
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Good thing I took the time to quest it~
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By Ramuh.Zidan 2011-07-24 22:45:03
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I don't get to use armageddon all that often, so not sure if it just has not happened yet or if its not possible, but can ODD proc on quick draw? If so can it also proc with +2 set bonus?
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-07-25 04:00:43
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Ramuh.Zidan said:
I don't get to use armageddon all that often, so not sure if it just has not happened yet or if its not possible, but can ODD proc on quick draw?


No.
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By Siren.Enverse 2011-07-28 21:30:14
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Aside from rolls, can rng not put out better dmg? Most of the ws gear I have seen the cors use, rng can use also. Can it be on par with cor while brewing wildfire on rng?(not using rolls) Or even have a cor in the party for rolls during the brew.
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By Phoenix.Deboro 2011-07-28 21:33:58
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Siren.Enverse said:
Aside from rolls, can rng not put out better dmg? Most of the ws gear I have seen the cors use, rng can use also. Can it be on par with cor while brewing wildfire on rng?(not using rolls) Or even have a cor in the party for rolls during the brew.
for pure ws numbers no Rng cant, they dont get Wizards or /rdm ( for practical use ) also small upgrades in WS gear here and there make a difference between the two.

And fire shot >> Wildfire is a 20% ( on +2? maybe its 15 ) increase right there.

But for overall damage like parse wise im sure I can out DD a my cor on my rng and my cor is perfectly geared vs rng just very well geared.
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By Cerberus.Saboro 2011-07-28 21:35:06
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gearwise rng can get close to cor but then u haven't taken into account QuickDraw which adds 20% increase for a cor. also no "smart" rng I know subs /rdm or /blm which gives another 20mab. but then again this is from my own experiences so yes it can be flawed.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-28 21:38:26
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Phoenix.Deboro said:
Cerberus.Saboro said:
Wuts goin on in hur?!
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-28 21:52:36
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I saw in the 2nd post of this thread that Wildfire cannot self make darkness but after the last update It seems it does now. Might have been a glitch that was never fixed till now.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-28 21:55:17
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Sylph.Kimble said:
I saw in the 2nd post of this thread that Wildfire cannot self make darkness but after the last update It seems it does now. Might have been a glitch that was never fixed till now.
It probably did but people just had bad information/bad testing or something, have to understand that those original posts were made a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-28 21:55:57
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Yeah, but I would assume people could tell if it was making darkness or gravitation.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-28 21:57:45
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Nyeh, well whether it did/didn't it does now
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-28 21:59:17
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Yeah, happy it does now for sure, Just been trying to get some confirmation that it didn't before.
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By Phoenix.Deboro 2011-07-28 22:01:18
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it always did, bad tests ect.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-07-30 08:25:51
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Cerberus.Saboro said:
gearwise rng can get close to cor but then u haven't taken into account QuickDraw which adds 20% increase for a cor. also no "smart" rng I know subs /rdm or /blm which gives another 20mab. but then again this is from my own experiences so yes it can be flawed.



If he is brewing, what's wrong with RNG/RDM? @.@

If you want to increase WF dmg, getting a SCH(or /SCH after lv cap increase) doing firestorm will probably increase more WS dmg than getting a COR to do rolls in abyssea.
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By Ragnarok.Judaine 2011-07-30 08:27:56
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Ragnarok.Afania said:
Cerberus.Saboro said:
gearwise rng can get close to cor but then u haven't taken into account QuickDraw which adds 20% increase for a cor. also no "smart" rng I know subs /rdm or /blm which gives another 20mab. but then again this is from my own experiences so yes it can be flawed.



If he is brewing, what's wrong with RNG/RDM? @.@

If you want to increase WF dmg, getting a SCH(or /SCH after lv cap increase) doing firestorm will probably increase more WS dmg than getting a COR to do rolls in abyssea.

I don't really know much about Wild Fire, but when I want to brew Shin or any other mob I'll do it on DNC/BLM, and it does make a difference.
Might not be a huge difference for me, but since you're doing wildfire and stacking M.AB on-top of the gear you (should) already have..
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By Leviathan.Agetos 2011-08-01 03:31:13
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OKay so i just got my Armageddon85 on friday. and this thread is so spread out with peoples shitty testing that its hard to find correct information (and i say shitty testing cuz people couldn't even figure out it did darkness lol)
so depending on how your geared will say whether the fire/fire/mab or mab/mab/fire atma combo work best for you. but there is also the agility modifier to speak of. would you guys think that it would be in my best interest to keep my stormsoulx2 and go after the tahrongi mab rings?

I usually use Smoldering/Lonewolf/Baying moon and i go /sam pretty often to events because i've yet to see a good strategy for self darkness while /mage and not using tp meds. So any suggestions or ideas that i haven't heard yet i'd love to know

Edit: With this setup I'm usually doing somewhere around 3k-4.5 dmg varies with buffs/astectics/subjob any ideas to boost my dmg are welcome too
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-08-01 03:47:42
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Agetos, I would think hecate's or novio would do way more than 4 Ratt, in the ear slot
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-08-01 03:51:35
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What Eikechi said and Sveltesse gouriz.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-01 07:34:19
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Augments: Anwig Salade: MAB+2, AGI+4, WS Damage +2% Mirke Wardecors: MAB+4, Quick Draw Delay -5 Desultor Tasets: MAB+4, MACC+4

Ultimate, Smoldering Sky, Lone Wolf

I get decent results.

Should have Hecates. Easy to get. Just one of those things you don't get around to doing. Multiple hours of no luck trying to farm up +3 MAB rings. =\
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By Quetzalcoatl.Lucieus 2011-08-01 09:45:38
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said:

I get decent results.

Define decent results please.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-01 09:58:01
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3.5-5k on normal mobs while /sam depending what level they're adjusted to at the time, not accounting for rolls/etc.
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By Cerberus.Heartslaught 2011-08-01 10:14:15
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Swap out belt for ele obi on firesday/firestorm.

Average 4k to 6k /sam in abyssea. My brews...



Personal best was over 100k (damage rolled over on that shinryu). That Rani hit was without firestorm, used asectics roll at 11. That was it.

I know better exist, but any wildfire shot, with a brew should be able to hit AT LEAST that on corsair.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-08-01 10:20:23
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Doesn't Shinryu have only around 60kish hp?
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By Cerberus.Heartslaught 2011-08-01 10:25:46
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Doesn't stop from high damage amounts being shown!

Did a 90k something at one point...but lost screenshot in a reformat T_T.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-01 10:40:11
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Cerberus.Heartslaught said:
Swap out belt for ele obi on firesday/firestorm. Average 4k to 6k /sam in abyssea. My brews... Personal best was over 100k (damage rolled over on that shinryu). That Rani hit was without firestorm, used asectics roll at 11. That was it. I know better exist, but any wildfire shot, with a brew should be able to hit AT LEAST that on corsair.


What atma are you using w/ that setup? I've yet to get GC. I've been trying to work out whether it would be more beneficial non-brew than the second fire MAB atma. I find I don't crack the 6k mark w/out additional boosts.
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By Cerberus.Heartslaught 2011-08-01 10:42:08
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Standard SS LW Ultimate. I've gotten the best results barnone with it. Without brew, same setup with tacticians and wizard's on most of the time on my cor.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-08-01 10:47:49
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Huh. Maybe I need to start using the AGI pieces over the MAB pieces then. Because without Ascetic's tonic up or some other boost (obi w/ SCH buff, etc.) I don't break 6k often. I normally end up around 5500 max. Was always under the impression the MAB was going to give more of a direct boost than the AGI. Admittedly, my game math isn't awesome so I end up testing a lot of things the hard way.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-08-01 10:52:25
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IIrc agi needs to be slightly more than double the mab to win. Ie Sveltesse Gouriz beats Aquiline Belt.
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