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 Odin.Sheelay
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 20:36:40
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I'm starting to consider going for Caladbolg when I get back on game and begun phantasizing about possible gear sets. Caladbolg's main drawback is the low delay which greatly affects TP gain
Using /SAM as reference for SJ in an attempt to see how to maximize the weapon I came up with 2 TP builds:

This grants a 7 Hit build with capped Haste but heavily penalizes Accuracy. Pizza would be a must



VS

This should grant a 6 Hit build while still capping haste and granting higher Accuracy but raising the weapon's delay.



Thoughts?
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 20:39:27
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Eisen Grip hidden effect was fixed
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 20:41:34
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Eisen Grip hidden effect was fixed

Aw gdit! What is it now?
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 20:43:25
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Odin.Sheelay said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Eisen Grip hidden effect was fixed
Aw gdit! What is it now?
It's just the pdt, which is kinda nice in a way for SAMs wanting to tank w/o the added delay, but yea :|
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 20:45:14
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Lowering the delay penalty would've been good too, allowing several other weapons to shoot for X-Hit builds. But yea, that grip is still nice for tanking situations on some jobs.
Oh well, thanks Aero :)
I guess the best way to use Caladbolg is with an 8/7 Hit build then
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 20:51:38
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Odin.Sheelay said:
Lowering the delay penalty would've been good too, allowing several other weapons to shoot for X-Hit builds. But yea, that grip is still nice for tanking situations on some jobs. Oh well, thanks Aero :) I guess the best way to use Caladbolg is with an 8/7 Hit build then
I'm looking for a solution right now, I think it might be possible to get a 6 hit going.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 20:54:52
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Lowering the delay penalty would've been good too, allowing several other weapons to shoot for X-Hit builds. But yea, that grip is still nice for tanking situations on some jobs. Oh well, thanks Aero :) I guess the best way to use Caladbolg is with an 8/7 Hit build then
I'm looking for a solution right now, I think it might be possible to get a 6 hit going.

It would require sacrificing everything in favor of STP and dropping some Haste. Not worth it
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 20:59:48
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I think this works? With Carbonara
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-23 21:00:26
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ace's sabtons, hoard ring, and askar over jawshan.. you'd drop 2% haste, but gain 14 STP..wouldn't that do it?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-23 21:00:46
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lol Aero just beat me to it....
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 21:03:36
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
lol Aero just beat me to it....
lol, it's 22% haste in total, 17.1 gain per swing, 14.8 on WS, but you have to WS in Brutal, Rajas, Chiv, Rose Strap, White Tathlum.

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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 21:04:39
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Hehe but you'd officially have a Wiff-fest TP build
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-10-23 21:05:44
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
I think this works? With Carbonara

why is stuff like this still considered with things like VV atma and everything outside of abyssea being without purpose
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-23 21:06:48
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there are also STP atmas for use as your secondary atma.... dont forget
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 21:07:14
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Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
I think this works? With Carbonara
why is stuff like this still considered with things like VV atma and everything outside of abyssea being without purpose
What are you talking about? I didn't factor in Atma
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-10-23 21:10:09
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
I think this works? With Carbonara
why is stuff like this still considered with things like VV atma and everything outside of abyssea being without purpose
What are you talking about? I didn't factor in Atma

why not?
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 21:11:18
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Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
I think this works? With Carbonara

why is stuff like this still considered with things like VV atma and everything outside of abyssea being without purpose

If something ever brings you out of Abyssea though, no VV for joo
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-10-23 21:13:02
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Odin.Sheelay said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
I think this works? With Carbonara

why is stuff like this still considered with things like VV atma and everything outside of abyssea being without purpose

If something ever brings you out of Abyssea though, no VV for joo

if something brings you out of abyssea and youre wearing this... :s
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 21:15:00
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Asura.Matzilla said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
I think this works? With Carbonara
why is stuff like this still considered with things like VV atma and everything outside of abyssea being without purpose
If something ever brings you out of Abyssea though, no VV for joo
if something brings you out of abyssea and youre wearing this... :s
It's a 6 hit. What's your point?
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 21:15:28
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Asura.Matzilla said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
I think this works? With Carbonara

why is stuff like this still considered with things like VV atma and everything outside of abyssea being without purpose

If something ever brings you out of Abyssea though, no VV for joo

if something brings you out of abyssea and youre wearing this... :s

Precisely my point :D

Abyssean Atmas are a Godsent, but I really hope something else will pop at the orizon after December's expansion.
The freakin red sky was givin me headaches!!!
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 21:16:27
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
I think this works? With Carbonara
why is stuff like this still considered with things like VV atma and everything outside of abyssea being without purpose
If something ever brings you out of Abyssea though, no VV for joo
if something brings you out of abyssea and youre wearing this... :s
It's a 6 hit. What's your point?

He was just adding the possibilities granted by Atmas such as VV . Add in a STP Atma and you'll be able to get better stuff on
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-10-23 21:17:26
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I think you could 6hit this too but there was a point this needed to stop and we have clearly passed that
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 21:18:37
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Odin.Sheelay said:
He was just adding the possibilities granted by Atmas such as VV
I'm not exactly sure how to determine Regain w/ TP gain from the weapon when factoring in the WS itself. ._.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-10-23 21:19:32
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Eisen grip is useless, and you can factor in two regain procs.
@above poster: you go for a 96% TP build.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-23 21:19:55
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Asura.Matzilla said:


I think you could 6hit this too but there was a point this needed to stop and we have clearly passed that

Are you willingly offering yourself as moderator for this admittedy broken topic I made? :o
If so, please show some manners to the guests :P
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-10-23 21:21:49
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Absolutely not
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 21:22:28
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Asura.Matzilla said:
Absolutely not
Oh you~
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-10-23 21:23:52
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This should work nicely with Caladbolg, 14.4% TP/hit (7-hit)
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 21:25:32
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
This should work nicely with Caladbolg, 14.4% TP/hit (7-hit)
Looks meh imo :x If you're doing a 7 hit, I'm sure you could easily shoot for more Haste
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-10-23 21:28:51
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Ideal setup would have Dusk gloves +1, ace's hose, adaberk, bale head +2, vbelt, etc, but that was just an example.
edit: forgot about timarli body, but we don't even know what or how it spawns <_< and it's not like lieje drops its crown all the time.
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