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My 5hit vs 6hit
 Kujata.Thud
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By Kujata.Thud 2010-10-20 12:08:36
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Hello,

So with my current available gear, i'm looking at the following...

5-hit with hasso up...



6-hit without hasso up...



So my question is. When hasso has to go down for whatever reason, and -pdt isn't needed, should I stick with the above 5-hit setup (getting no enhance:hasso effect) or switch to the 6-hit setup?

Thanks
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-20 12:11:10
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Hi...?
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-10-20 12:29:01
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Stick with 5hit considering you're only losing the haste from enhanced hasso, as there is no way that loss would trump saving 1 hit.
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-20 12:30:48
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He's sacrificing a lot using that body though.

It's worth mentioning I don't know if I'm right, but that doesn't mean I can't troll SAMs.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-10-20 12:32:53
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Well, im sure in abyssea, acc will be capped and fstr will be too, so dex wouldnt do much and attack is generally useless for SAM due to WS so i'd assume the body is fine since making a 5 hit will do more for you than some attack.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-10-20 12:36:57
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I honestly forgot about that body piece, thanks for reminding me!
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By Lakshmi.Naveyah 2010-10-20 12:54:35
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Sea gorgets > Ire Torque, c'mon!
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-20 12:55:18
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Fenrir.Snick said:
He's sacrificing a lot using that body though. It's worth mentioning I don't know if I'm right, but that doesn't mean I can't troll SAMs.
You DO realize that's the OAT GK he's using, right?
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By Kujata.Thud 2010-10-20 12:56:23
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I'll be capping accuracy with pizza + RR (should be ~450 acc). Without hasso, moving to the 6-hit, I would be gaining 3 haste, and some attack (which I know is mediocre). Not sure if that's worth forgoing the 5-hit.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-20 13:04:34
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Kujata.Thud said:
I'll be capping accuracy with pizza + RR (should be ~450 acc). Moving to the 6-hit, I would be gaining 3 haste, and some attack (which I know is mediocre). Not sure if that's worth forgoing the 50hit.
The problem with all of this is you're switching from Rose Strap to Sword Strap, so if you're canceling Hasso and switching to your 5/6 hit, you're going to end up losing some TP :x

Unless you're just making these sets knowing that x set will be used because Hasso is always down, and y set will be used for when Hasso is up frequently.
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By Kujata.Thud 2010-10-20 13:10:49
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I definetly won't be switching 1/2 way through a fight. Was thinking more like last night, came to Amp as sam/war (for raiden thrust) and ended up tanking seigen/te most of the time.
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-20 18:31:32
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
He's sacrificing a lot using that body though. It's worth mentioning I don't know if I'm right, but that doesn't mean I can't troll SAMs.
You DO realize that's the OAT GK he's using, right?
Yeah I didn't care to check what GKT that was.

The obvious answer is get Masumune anyways.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-10-20 18:42:11
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Kujata.Thud said:
Hello,

So with my current available gear, i'm looking at the following...

5-hit with hasso up...



6-hit without hasso up...



So my question is. When hasso has to go down for whatever reason, and -pdt isn't needed, should I stick with the above 5-hit setup (getting no enhance:hasso effect) or switch to the 6-hit setup?

Thanks

The 3% Haste difference won't make the 6hit beat a 5hit. Body's fine too, though even a Domaru would be an upgrade really.
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By Kujata.Thud 2010-10-21 06:42:26
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
even a Domaru would be an upgrade really.

I'll move to domaru when I get a bit more stp. The 50jse looks so terrible, but I need all of it's stp to reach 5-hit atm. Thanks for the suggestion though, i'll keep it in mind!
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-10-21 13:51:01
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Domaru looks even worse, I wouldn't be in a rush to wear it.
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2010-10-21 13:58:36
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Kujata.Thud said:
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
even a Domaru would be an upgrade really.

I'll move to domaru when I get a bit more stp. The 50jse looks so terrible, but I need all of it's stp to reach 5-hit atm. Thanks for the suggestion though, i'll keep it in mind!


can Hoard Ring over Ecphoria for and extra +3stp in that ring slot
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By Lakshmi.Naveyah 2010-10-22 11:10:28
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Unkai Nodawi and White Tathlum and Hoard ring would let you change that ugly body out for something more useful.

or... Unkai Nodawi and Ace's Sabatons(not that hard to get!) would let you remove Hoard Ring, and White Tathlum and you would gain 20.1TP a swing.
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By Alexander.Vivicide 2010-11-24 13:12:02
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I'd personally rather use askar and hoard ring or juogi, hoard ring, white tathlum, unkai nodowa... the str isn't needed and the att does minimal but the extra chance to DA will do more good then str, dex, att, acc, ect. in that slot.
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