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 Cerberus.Oseryu
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-03 13:07:12
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I have no idea what to merit for DRK just got it to 77 in abyssea, can someone give me tips please and thank you.
 
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-10-03 13:14:11
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5 LR
5 LR effect
5 Diabolic Eye
1 Dark seal
4 Desperate blows

inb4 muted souls and another QQ thread.
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-03 13:18:36
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Phoenix.Excelior said:
5 LR 5 LR effect 5 Diabolic Eye 1 Dark seal 4 Desperate blows inb4 muted souls and another QQ thread.

Take your word for it Excel your the ***boss at DRK;D
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By Cerberus.Stalkster 2010-10-03 13:22:07
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Last Resort Recast/Last Resort Effect/Desperate Blows:5/5
Diabolic Eye:4
Dark Seal:1

Then stuff like 8HP/8Scythe/5Str/4Crit depending on your current jobs/merit's.
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-10-03 13:26:53
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
An Apoc DRK who merited Diabolic Eye is not boss >_> But I suppose there is nothing else to merit instead lol ><;

I dont use it all anymore, just nothing else to do
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-03 13:28:50
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Also, What should I wear. I'm in Abyssea now about 78 should i full time Perle?
EDIT: Another thing should i level sword skill as well?
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-10-03 13:33:55
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Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Also, What should I wear. I'm in Abyssea now about 78 should i full time Perle? EDIT: Another thing should i level sword skill as well?

Max out haste then just add accuracy/str. Make sure u have a 6 hit build when /sam. I doubt perle is optimal but idk what you have access to.
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By Cerberus.Oseryu 2010-10-03 13:36:11
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Phoenix.Excelior said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Also, What should I wear. I'm in Abyssea now about 78 should i full time Perle? EDIT: Another thing should i level sword skill as well?
Max out haste then just add accuracy/str. Make sure u have a 6 hit build when /sam. I doubt perle is optimal but idk what you have access to.

Can you give me a setup pls?
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-03 13:45:12
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Full perle is fine for TPing if you don't have access to better. I don't know DRK too well, just throwing that out there~
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-10-03 13:45:13
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Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Also, What should I wear. I'm in Abyssea now about 78 should i full time Perle? EDIT: Another thing should i level sword skill as well?
Max out haste then just add accuracy/str. Make sure u have a 6 hit build when /sam. I doubt perle is optimal but idk what you have access to.
Can you give me a setup pls?

Uhh

Sword Strap (with a 528 scythe)
Fire bomblet
Perle head
Peacock Charm
Brutal Earring
Aesir Earring
Perle body
Perle hands
Rajas ring
Blitz ring
Forager's mantle
Swift or V belt
Perle legs
Perle feet

Idk if that's accurate anymore
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By Bahamut.Aiyana 2010-10-03 13:51:31
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Phoenix.Excelior said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Also, What should I wear. I'm in Abyssea now about 78 should i full time Perle? EDIT: Another thing should i level sword skill as well?
Max out haste then just add accuracy/str. Make sure u have a 6 hit build when /sam. I doubt perle is optimal but idk what you have access to.
Can you give me a setup pls?

Uhh

Sword Strap (with a 528 scythe)
Fire bomblet
Perle head
Peacock Charm
Brutal Earring
Aesir Earring
Perle body
Perle hands
Rajas ring
Blitz ring
Forager's mantle
Swift or V belt
Perle legs
Perle feet

Idk if that's accurate anymore

Looks fine, but I'm unsure if the x-hit on that is proper. Been playing RDM too long to memorize hit builds. ><
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By Unicorn.Fosgate 2010-10-03 13:51:43
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LAst resort effect
Last reseort recast

Diabolic eye capped (ohai now i can use what wars get at 45)
Dark seal 1/5 (really only 1 is needed to land good drain 2's on zergs)
Desperate blows 3/5 (only need 3 to cap JA haste with hasso, anything more /sam with hasso is unaffected)


As for gear, here's what i use. Nothing crazy. This late in the game its all pretty obtainable or replaceable

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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-03 13:58:19
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Bahamut.Aiyana said:
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Also, What should I wear. I'm in Abyssea now about 78 should i full time Perle? EDIT: Another thing should i level sword skill as well?
Max out haste then just add accuracy/str. Make sure u have a 6 hit build when /sam. I doubt perle is optimal but idk what you have access to.
Can you give me a setup pls?

Uhh

Sword Strap (with a 528 scythe)
Fire bomblet
Perle head
Peacock Charm
Brutal Earring
Aesir Earring
Perle body
Perle hands
Rajas ring
Blitz ring
Forager's mantle
Swift or V belt
Perle legs
Perle feet

Idk if that's accurate anymore

Looks fine, but I'm unsure if the x-hit on that is proper. Been playing RDM too long to memorize hit builds. ><
/SAM just needs 6STP (Rajas and Brutal) for 6hit.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-03 14:04:58
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Bahamut.Aiyana said:
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Cerberus.Oseryu said:
Also, What should I wear. I'm in Abyssea now about 78 should i full time Perle? EDIT: Another thing should i level sword skill as well?
Max out haste then just add accuracy/str. Make sure u have a 6 hit build when /sam. I doubt perle is optimal but idk what you have access to.
Can you give me a setup pls?

Uhh

Idk if that's accurate anymore

Looks fine, but I'm unsure if the x-hit on that is proper. Been playing RDM too long to memorize hit builds. ><

Sword strap is the grip of choice for a 528 delay scythe since it doesn't break your 6-hit build. (Can use this as reference.)

You would use a Rose strap if going for a 5hit build though, with a weapon such as reckoning +1(StoreTP path), which is the scythe people should be making if they can't get the items for an OAT scythe.

As for my DRK specific merits, I had posted mines here:

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/13330/drk-merits-job-specific#793332


Unicorn.Fosgate said:

As for gear, here's what i use. Nothing crazy. This late in the game its all pretty obtainable or replaceable


A full Perle setup for TP would be better than what you have there.
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By Unicorn.Fosgate 2010-10-03 14:32:21
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Yea i know full perle is better but i just loathe the fact that all that hard word and time spent is replaced by a few hours in an abyssea pt. I dont care if full perle had 497% haste on it and accuracy +a billion, i refuse to look like 95% of the cookie cutter samurai's except holding a scythe. I'll take the small cut in stats to not look like i started the game 2 days ago
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-03 14:39:48
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Unicorn.Fosgate said:
Yea i know full perle is better but i just loathe the fact that all that hard word and time spent is replaced by a few hours in an abyssea pt. I dont care if full perle had 497% haste on it and accuracy +a billion, i refuse to look like 95% of the cookie cutter samurai's except holding a scythe. I'll take the small cut in stats to not look like i started the game 2 days ago

No offense, but I really don't understand that mentality. You're willingly gimping yourself because "homam looks better" ?

If you really hate that much how it looks, then learn to .DAT swap?

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By Snick 2010-10-03 14:42:32
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Unicorn.Fosgate said:
Yea i know full perle is better but i just loathe the fact that all that hard word and time spent is replaced by a few hours in an abyssea pt. I dont care if full perle had 497% haste on it and accuracy +a billion, i refuse to look like 95% of the cookie cutter samurai's except holding a scythe. I'll take the small cut in stats to not look like i started the game 2 days ago
Better toss that Rajas than, I hear lots of SAMs use that too.
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By Phoenix.Lithical 2010-10-03 14:43:14
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I'd rather have a Dalmy than a Refresh+Regen body that looks like Nashira personally :X Someone going to flame me for that.
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-03 14:45:42
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Phoenix.Lithical said:
I'd rather have a Dalmy than a Refresh+Regen body that looks like Nashira personally :X Someone going to flame me for that.
That's totally different, Dalmy+2 doesn't exist and is a minor upgrade compared to his set -> Perle.

Still is stupid, but yeah~
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-03 14:50:36
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And, once again, this is the difference between the two sets:

Full Perle:

STR +22
DEX +14
Attack +25 > 41 (it's really 41 Attack, taking into account the att from the STR)
Accuracy +18 > 28 (it's really 28 accuracy, taking into account the acc from the DEX)
Haste +14%
"Critical hit rate" +2%

VS

Walahra Turban + Hauberk+1 + Homam legs/feet/hands:


STR +6
DEX +6
Attack +12 > 16 (it's really 16 Attack, taking into account the att from the STR)
Accuracy +25 >29 (it's really 29 accuracy, taking into account the acc from the DEX)
Haste +14%

Full Perle for TP is the better option here, and it's free too, if you use your cruor (or cheap as well, if you want to buy it from AH). No reason to willingly gimp yourself by not using full Perle for TP here, in my opinion.
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By Unicorn.Fosgate 2010-10-03 15:08:04
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:


If you really hate that much how it looks, then learn to .DAT swap?


I could .Dat swap my character to wear a Barney costume, but everyone else would still see a cookie cutter Sam with a scythe.
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-03 15:14:41
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Unicorn.Fosgate said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:


If you really hate that much how it looks, then learn to .DAT swap?


I could .Dat swap my character to wear a Barney costume, but everyone else would still see a cookie cutter Sam with a scythe.
So you're just dumb? Ok, I won't bother then~
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By Caitsith.Jar 2010-10-03 15:15:47
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For GS is one of many easier 6hit TP sets

This is one example of a 5hit with scythe also
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-03 15:16:04
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Unicorn.Fosgate said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:


If you really hate that much how it looks, then learn to .DAT swap?


I could .Dat swap my character to wear a Barney costume, but everyone else would still see a cookie cutter Sam with a scythe.

So? I thought all that mattered was how you saw your character...

If you really cared about what others saw and think, then you should be more worried about people thinking that you're wearing inferior gear by wearing turban/hauberk+1/homamX3, instead of full perle for TP.

Really, not trying to be mean, but I don't understand your logic...
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By Leviathan.Agentd 2010-10-03 15:23:53
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I'm trying to understand why people still complain about full perle gear. It's a great set, your damage while TPing is up, you get cheap and easy haste, critical rate up, no real drawbacks outside of enmity increases if you're trying to lose it (I merited enmity down, so this negates it basically). Weaponskill pieces, sure their are better, but for TP this is optimal for anyone who hasn't been playing for 7 years and doesn't have everything (some people just don't have the time).

As for merits, following a similar trail here. Last resort recast and effect 5/5, desperate blows 5/5, and for me, dark seal 5/5. I didn't feel the boosted accuracy was needed for an hp decrease. If I wanted that, I'd use souleater, and at least do more damage while I'm at it. With a fully merited dark seal, I can pop off a nether voided drain II, souleater, and dark seal a regular drain to help keep my damage at its peak and not get murdered while I'm at it (well, get murdered as fast). Besides, I have 347 scythe (full merits and full cap), and that's before any equipment that boosts it. If I'm missing still, I should get a new job.
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By Unicorn.Fosgate 2010-10-03 15:36:25
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I understand how you perceive (or dont perceive) my logic. I could easily go to the AH and spend very short gil on a full perle set. So could anyone. Not everyone can break out homam though. Its like an AC/DC concert T-shirt from 1983. Is it outdated? Yup sure is. But does everyone have one and can go out and buy one for $5 without actually waiting in line for days and sleeping on the sidewalk?

TL;DR
My dark is just for Zerg, which wears 3x homam. For DD i use warrior.

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By Leviathan.Dissonant 2010-10-03 15:39:57
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Leviathan.Agentd said:
I'm trying to understand why people still complain about full perle gear.

As for merits, following a similar trail here. Last resort recast and effect 5/5, desperate blows 5/5, and for me, dark seal 5/5. I didn't feel the boosted accuracy was needed for an hp decrease.
Perle is ugly. I willingly gimp myself because I need my homanz regardless and can't afford the inventory space for a hardly noticeable boost in damage. I'm not saying I'm justified, really. Honestly it's 90% about appearance. I like my homanz. >: Also, I don't play on PC, so nodats4me.

Those merits are very extremely correct, though. *** Diabolic Eye.
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By Caitsith.Xiong 2010-10-03 16:00:15
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Personally I went w/ LR recast/effect. For cat2: I have Dark Seal 1/5, Desperate Blows 5/5. Probably going to finish Dark Seal 5/5, only reason its unfinished is because I am unsure of which I truly want to do.

It is true that hasso + DB 3/5 is capped JA haste. I don't know about you but half the time I'm not /SAM. So 5/5 wins.

inb4 /SAM only. A lot of times I'm either a) Tanking, b) The mobs have nasty AoE moves that shadows are needed for.

for the OP, LR recast/effect and Desperate Blows is generally a must 5/5. As for the other cat2 choice, it really comes down to your play style.

If you only zerg w/ DRK, I'd go Muted Soul.
If you like to not resist on HNM, I'd go Dark Seal.
The only use I could think of for Diabolic Eye is, if you were going to swap out some ACC piece for more STR/ATK kind of like an Aftermath set.

But I don't see 20 ACC being swapped out being worth your merits.
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