Mana Wall Enhancement?

Has anyone gotten a hold of Goetia Sabots +1 yet? I would like to know how SE Increases its effectiveness. I would test it out but I'm only 4/8 on the seals for it.

lucky>< i have the booties but 0/8 on 23 tries.. in fact, ive only seen 2 NIN seals ever D=
Looking forward if anyone who has gotten them can tell as im super curious about that mana wall enhance myself

I've gotten really lucky on seals from the quest. Like 5 blm and 6 of everything else combine... just don't have the boots themselves lol

Since we are already talking about blm etc, does anyone know what the enhances cumulative magic effect on the legs does? I did a small test and damage is still only 5% incease.

Maybe gives you more time between casts? Or lets you stack more?

Yeah maybe.
Each successive spell after the last will have an additional 5% damage bonus. (ie: 5%>10%>etc) is that true? I thought it was like this. first nuke 100%, second nuke 105%, third nuke 100% etc

Wiki is wobbling on which it is and I just got 81 last night so haven't really tested it. Especially since the mobs I was fighting sometimes took an extra 50% dmg if you nuked them right which I had to figure out on my own since I couldn't find info

God I wish I could get some seals to be able to look into this

I'd test it but im lazy =D

That makes me a sad panda :(

I'll get to the normal ja testing in a bit but just got a pt yays

Just casted Waterja 3 times in a row and it went from 100% to 105% then back to 100% damage. Was with the legs +1. :/

Did you record the time?

I casted them as soon as I could after recast timer.

Hmmm I'm not doing anything I think I might try to test wtf wiki is talking about at least without the pants

This is definitely complicated.

First test I did. 2nd cast was about 5% more and the next one was about 11% more than the 5%.

2nd time it was 11 then 5ish. Resulting in the same dmg for 1st and last but different for middle one.

Ok I'll post numbers.

#1: 1288, 1351, 1510

#2: 1288, 1441, 1510

#3: 1288, 720 (half resist should've been 1441), 1510, 1374.

As far as I can tell it has something to do with time since last cast. Like the first time I didn't cast the 2nd cast immediately when recast was up. Though on all of them I did for the 3rd one. So maybe some kind of comparison to since the last time it was consequently cast and a certain amount of time?

Wonder how the pants will affect this

[19:10:21]Finalvegeta casts Waterja.

[19:10:21]The Ironclad Executioner takes 1929 points of damage.

[19:11:16]Finalvegeta casts Waterja.

[19:11:16]The Ironclad Executioner takes 2024 points of damage.

[19:12:06]Finalvegeta casts Waterja.

[19:12:06]The Ironclad Executioner takes 1929 points of damage.

All 3 times was with legs +1

You aren't casting fast enough. Try more fast cast/haste and/or alacrity. Or another blm I think

Well I managed to get the +1 feet so im gonna test its effects soon I guess.

Excellent. I eagerly await. Wonder if the +2 will enhance it even more

Ok.... using the same testing method as Iresire used from Blue Gartr here are the numbers I got:

Test #1
Confirmation

Before I did anything I wanted to confirm the base knowledge of Mana Wall: The 2hp = 1mp convertion.

To do this I did not use the Terra's staff nor the goetia's sabots +1 for this test.



Mp before 1000 Needles: 699
Mp After 1000 Needles: 199
Total Mp Lost: 500

As you can clearly see the 2hp = 1mp convertion is true

Test #2
The Goetia's sabots

Same as Test number 1 only differnce is that I have the feet in question equiped now:



Mp before 1000 Needles: 891
Mp after 1000 Needles: 459
Total Mp lost: 432

As you can see under the sabots I took 68 less damage (Mp) from the attack.

Test #2 was done in an error had pdt 4% on at the time of the test.
Here are the numbers done without pdt:

Mp before 1000 Needles: 917
Mp after 1000 Needles: 467
Total Mp lost: 450

Test #3
Goetia + Terra = ?

Now lets see what happens when -20% Damage reduction is added:



Mp before 1000 Needles: 869
Mp after 1000 Needles: 509
Total Mp lost: 360

So with the sabots and the Terra staff I took 140 less mp loss then I would have without them.

Keep in mind so far I've only done test numbers 2 and 3 once. Im gonna do test number 2 a few more times to see weather or not the mp loss will change.

Yeah I'd do more test. The ratios on test 2 and 3 are different amounts. So think you might have been hit rq and 1000 needled on one. But it looks like it's more like .45 instead of .5. Nice and all but much less than I was hoping for. But since blm can't get -dmg on that slot might as well use it.

Also why not try something else constant? Like venom pots? Or sublimation etc

No it wont. But they are already proven to be applied seperately. It would give a more precise way of getting before pdt amounts. Which is the one I think he messed up.

Since his non pdt one came out to .432... and his pdt one after accounting for pdt came out to exactly .45. And you know SE and there round numbers and doing things in 5s and 10s

I've just done Test #2 two more times. The numbers are:

Mp before 1000 Needles: 828
Mp after 1000 Needles: 396
Total Mp lost: 432

&

Mp before 1000 Needles: 916
Mp after 1000 Needles: 484
Total Mp lost: 432

It seems the effect that the feet gives is consistant.

off to do Test #3 two more times.

just did test #3 again.... Im not sure how but it seems I got a differernt constant for it this time around:

Mp before 1000 Needles: 893
Mp after 1000 Needles: 551
Total Mp lost: 342

&

Mp before 1000 Needles: 904
Mp after 1000 Needles: 562
Total Mp lost: 342

Im done with the cactuar for now gonna take Dasva's advice and test sublimation.

No changes with mana wall + sublimation. sublimation will still take 1 mp per tic with mana wall active Goetia sabots on or not.

Hmmm the percentages are still slightly different. Might have to do with how the math isn't actually percentage and is more like parts of 1024 I guess

At any rate the feet will still keep us alive longer. Any other tests you want me to do dasva?