RDM/SCH At Level 80.

I've never posted anything in the Red Mage forum, but I've been sitting here reading the update and looking at job capabilities as they are and all I can come to a conclusion: RDM/SCH is going to be a good, maybe the best, party/HNM/Event combination for level 80.

RDM/SCH is going to hit Fast Cast caps... (Already does)

RDM/SCH lower MP costs.

RDM/SCH will have access to Parsimony, and now we have Tier 4 Nukes on RDM. (Water and Stone 4)

RDM/SCH will have access to Erase(ga), Reraise(ga), Drain, Aspir, Hastega, Dispelga, Protect 5(ga), Regen 2(ga) and Refreshga at lv80.

RDM/SCH can use Composure and Accession, thus question that remains to be answered is will the lengthened enhancing magic effect extend to the entire party.

This is going to cramp your macros, and some people may find this combo too labor intensive, but I think it will be worth it.

^ This is just what I've been looking at I'm sure there is more.

From the update notes:

The scholar ability "Accession" does not affect the white magic spell "Haste".

no hastega.

Well no Hastega that's fine :) Haste rounds a go go. Haha ^^

As for Reraise(ga) I think it does work? I'm not sure.

lol no

Nope. Remember SCHs have been using Accession since Level 40, and SCH natively have Reraise. SCHs can't Reraisega, so just cos we can sub SCH doesn't mean it will change.

No Reraisega either also doubt Refresh will work.

Well there is still a lot of things RDM can now do at 80 with /SCH that only 75 WHM and 75 SCH could do. RDM had a lot of advantage over those two jobs too with how Merit/Exp parties have been set up recently. (At least on my server)

Update is giving some balance I guess.... Kind of :P

But they haven't mentioned Refresh like they mentioned Haste, and Accession Refresh will be available in this update for RDM80/SCH40.

Time will tell?~

Reraise(ga), doesnt work
They maked haste(ga) not possible
So they may make refresh(ga) not possible either

SCH as main can't even accession-reraise anyway :P
level up sch jadus :P

as RDM/WHM composure+..say Barwatera.. it gives it to the party as well, but its time is not lengthened :P so no to composure+accesion

@ Xeon Yah I was going to say I just got my SCH to lv.22 (I hated SCH when it came out and refused to unlock/play it like a dummy) Xeonerable! Aren't you in the same Ls as Steelserenity? :O

And Composure would've made it too awesome I guess :(

No I'm not in the same ls as steel :P she is on my friends list though.

The first person to reply to your post is whose Ls I am in....she is our matriarch :P xD


If Composure+Accession extended spells like people wanted it to in a party it would overpower RDM waaaaay too much.

But now Accesion+Phalanx will be possible. Sucks I have 3 points into Phalanx2. I want my merits back D:<

Yeah I unmeritted my Phalanx 2 like 2 years ago and now I'm glad I did! :<

I beleive Refreshga will work since you can use Regenga, but that's just my crazy uneducated opinion.

it was already possible if you were sch

<3 how people think an ability will change because they dont understand what a SCH does in the first place!!


re-raise ga...
lol
raise-ga wld have been 'king awesome.. but come on... lol seriously?

i believe refresh-ga WILL be available upon the next update..(for sch's) when rdm gets refresh2..

I meant as RDM as main. I know SCH can do it already.

RDM/SCH phalanx-ga pretty much kills the need to phalanx2.
Unless your a different subjob.


Manifestation+Enfeebs2 ..is going to rock.

Having read that I really don't think Refresh-ga will be possible either, later on.

Think SE would have included that in the update notes too?
I mean they did bother to say Accession+Haste isn't possible, why not put Accession+Refresh isn't either? Guess we'll find out when the update comes out and people level up.

Would probably have mentioned that in the update news allready, as they did with haste?

Edit: Beaten -_-

whats going to be good is how much of a diference minding gear would accession phalanx be rdm vs sch version ?

it just says to me that RDM will get refresh2... (eventually)

give RDM refresh-ga NOW.. albeit with the accession "nerf"..

then when we release a further update sch/rdm will get refresh-ga but rdm/sch will get refreshga2.

if its not been mentioned as DEFINATELY OUT.. it's in.. and as haste was specifically mentioned..

refresh is in

refresh II has been confirmed by SE, but available later on

question is, will it be a scroll version or a tierII merit spell ?

Dispel(ga) works right?

Where in the update notes did they ***-block hastega and why the *** do they hate SCH so much?!?!?! We can't wear morrigan's set and we finally get access to haste thru /40WHM and they won't even let us AoE it? I'll have to cycle through it like a damned RDM?!(haha, j/k, much love!)

But seriously...

SCH is the only job not on a ZNM set, even DNC gets on Enkidu... STOP HATIN' THE SCHOLARS SE!!!

Yes, I use to use it when I spammed Lamia 13 for AP to enter salvage.

yes

and for the arguments

Poison Black Mage Lv.3 / Red Mage Lv.5 / Dark Knight Lv.6
Blind Black Mage Lv.4 / Red Mage Lv.8
Bind Black Mage Lv.7 / Red Mage Lv.11 / Dark Knight Lv.20
Sleep Addendum: Black Lv. 30
Sleep II Addendum: Black Lv. 65
Gravity Red Mage Lv.21
Dispel Addendum: Black Lv. 32
Drain N/A
Aspir N/A
Klimaform N/A
Bio Black Mage Lv.10 / Red Mage Lv.10 / Dark Knight Lv.15
Bio II Black Mage Lv.35 / Red Mage Lv.36 / Dark Knight Lv.40
Absorb-MND Dark Knight Lv.31
Absorb-CHR Dark Knight Lv.33
Absorb-VIT Dark Knight Lv.35
Absorb-AGI Dark Knight Lv.37
Stun Dark Knight Lv.37
Absorb-INT Dark Knight Lv.39

manifestation - dark arts

and


Spell Support Job level Required*
Protect I-IV N/A
Shell I-IV N/A
Cure I-IV N/A
Invisible N/A
Sneak N/A
Deodorize N/A
"Storm" spells N/A
Poisona Addendum: White Lv. 10
Paralyna Addendum: White Lv. 12
Blindna Addendum: White Lv. 17
Silena Addendum: White Lv. 22
Cursna Addendum: White Lv. 32
Erase Addendum: White Lv. 39
Viruna Addendum: White Lv. 46
Stona Addendum: White Lv. 50
Phalanx Red Mage Lv.33
Stoneskin Red Mage Lv.34 / White Mage Lv. 28
Blink Red Mage Lv.23 / White Mage Lv. 19
Aquaveil Red Mage Lv.12 / White Mage Lv. 10
Regen N/A
Regen II N/A
Enspell** Red Mage Lv.16-27
"Bar- Spells" Red Mage Lv.5-25


accession - Light arts